Monday, October 17, 2016

Not Deplorable, Just Sad

This afternoon, I had to cover one of my worksites because we have an eight-week afterschool program for one of the local elementary schools. After touching base with the managers on duty, I hung around the parking lot to make sure that no unauthorized individuals entered the site, which is normally closed on Mondays. I like to take a low-key approach, informing anyone who enters the front gate that we are closed, but that some other local points of interest are available for visitors.

While I was lounging around the parking lot, I saw a vehicle enter, driven by a man who appeared to be in his sixties or seventies. He had an older man sitting in the front passenger's seat. The driver had long hair, a beard, and spectacles- he could have passed for an aging hippie, or an aging biker, or an off-duty new-age guru. I introduced myself and told him that we were closed, but would be open to the public Wednesday through Sunday. We spoke briefly about local affairs, and he told me that his dad, the ninety-five year-old man in the passenger's seat, used to work in the area until the 1970s and wanted to see his old stomping grounds.

The talk went very well until, somehow, the guy brought up politics, and noted that 'one of the candidates should be in jail' (oddly enough, I think I agree with him on the point, but with one significant difference). He lamented how corrupt politics had become, and I reminded him that politics have been corrupt since before the Teapot Dome Scandal. He lamented how bad things had become, and I reminded him that it was the rich who screwed things up so a worker couldn't put in thirty to forty years of honest work and retire with a wristwatch and a pension. Every point he brought up, I countered, gently bringing up the reality behind the rose-colored vision he had of history.

The conversation remained cordial, for the most part. He did drop a hint about 'even the poor black people were honest', which I deflected by noting that a lot of the necessary grunt work of the country was performed by poor black women who deserved much higher pay and decent benefits. For the most part, we talked about local affairs- even though the guy was now living in Colorado (I made a point of reminding him that this is a Spanish name), he grew up in the same neighborhood in Yonkers that I inhabit, going to middle school in the school across the street from my place. He asked me if I could help to locate the building where his dad worked decades ago, and I referred him to the local historical society, providing him with an address and a phone number.

After our talk, he tended to his dad, a World War 2 veteran, for a brief while, making sure his oxygen tank was properly connected and giving him a cup of water. We parted on good terms, but when he left, I felt a certain amount of melancholy. Here was a guy who isn't a bad man, he's just misinformed, and the gaps in his knowledge, or better yet, memory, have been filled with poison. I don't think he was a hateful person, just a scared and uncertain person. While I think he will make a deplorable choice in November, I don't think that he fits in the 'deplorable' half of Trump's 'basket'. He wasn't deplorable, just sad.

5 comments:

chrome agnomen said...

i sympathize with both the man and your position, but this is a world now in which it is not difficult to inform oneself. that people still choose to remain within the bubble, or in more worldly terms, the tiny tribal circle in which they are comfortable, does not redound to anyone's credit. thought you don't mention the man's age, and it's fairly irrelevant, i am probably in his bracket--mid-late 60s--but i have always retained an intellectual curiosity for many things, extending to at least a passing acquaintance with the main subjects engendered in today's political discussions. and i am not a college educated person, have worked at purely blue collar and hard physical labor my entire life, often in very conservative areas, rural virginia and wyoming. i say this not in self-validation, but merely to note how easily one might be swept along by a prevalent tide.sure, he's not a bad man, in the sense that he's not malignant in any active way (i presume), but how anyone can still cling to uninformed prejudices (really a redundancy) in this world, is something i find baffling, and worthy of a modicum of scorn, which i generally, in the search for domestic tranquility, keep clandestine.

Chickpea said...

It is tempting to write people off as ignorant and nasty, but as you said it is often fear that makes them think and vote the way they do. We learned this lesson with Brexit at our cost.

mikey said...

I dunno. It's well documented that you, Mr. Bastard, are a kinder, more patient member of the species than I, but some of this stuff is willful ignorance. If it was a close run thing - that both candidates had strong arguments backed up by facts and reality - then I could more easily sympathize with the opposing viewpoint and policy choices. But that is simply not the case - Trumpism is structured on obvious, easily debunked falsehoods, tropes and outright lies. It requires first a mindset - tribal, bigoted, authoritarian, sectarian, fearful, angry and hateful - to allow oneself to believe things that are so clearly false. It is very much a CHOICE to believe the lies in order to get to the outcome you want, rather than our more rational let the facts lead us to the outcome they require.

And if you make a choice that will hurt vast swaths of the community in order to satisfy your brutal tribal undemocratic personal desires, you're not going to find me a sympathetic enemy...

Big Bad Bald Bastard said...

i am probably in his bracket--mid-late 60s--but i have always retained an intellectual curiosity for many things, extending to at least a passing acquaintance with the main subjects engendered in today's political discussions. and i am not a college educated person, have worked at purely blue collar and hard physical labor my entire life, often in very conservative areas, rural virginia and wyoming. i say this not in self-validation, but merely to note how easily one might be swept along by a prevalent tide

The thing that really bugs me about the current situation is that the ideal of this country has always been that even the blue collar workers were supposed to be educated, involved citizens.

It is tempting to write people off as ignorant and nasty, but as you said it is often fear that makes them think and vote the way they do. We learned this lesson with Brexit at our cost.

The big problem is that opportunistic mofos love to play on the fears of others in order to grab power.

But that is simply not the case - Trumpism is structured on obvious, easily debunked falsehoods, tropes and outright lies. It requires first a mindset - tribal, bigoted, authoritarian, sectarian, fearful, angry and hateful - to allow oneself to believe things that are so clearly false. It is very much a CHOICE to believe the lies in order to get to the outcome you want, rather than our more rational let the facts lead us to the outcome they require.

In some way, I think this guy was going through the motions, probably because he thought I looked like a right-winger. Once I was able to shut down the 'hurr hurr, Hillary, knowhatimean?' line of conversation, we talked, of all things, about Madam C. J. Walker, and he was surprisingly knowledgeable about her career.

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said...

And if you make a choice that will hurt vast swaths of the community in order to satisfy your brutal tribal undemocratic personal desires

That, to me, is exactly what Hillary voters did in the primary. Unless you don't consider the hapless foreigners that she has had bombed, and will continue to bomb, part of the community.
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